Something fishy afoot?

Marklews Pond today is clear, peaceful, limpid and surrounded by wildlife and greenspace. A far cry from its industrial past.

I’ve had an interesting question in from Taffy of Tamworth, who’s an angler who enjoys fishing Marklews Pond, off Engine Lane in Brownhills – but he’s recently noticed something.

I’ll let him explain:

Hi folks…

Just wondering if anyone can give me info about Marklews Pond off Coppice Lane.

I’ve fished there for 20 years. Now I see a sign saying ‘Private Fishing. Little Wyrley Estate’.

Does Marklews Pond now belong to a fishing club, or is fishing not allowed at all there now?

I think its a cracking little pool with some good carp and tench… It would be sad not to be able to fish it anymore.

Taffy from Tamworth

I know nothing at all about angling, so I’m throwing this out there for readers who do, and I’m sure there are a few out there. It is somewhat curious, and I’ve often wondered who owns the pool.

If you want to know something of the history of the pond, see this post here – it was once a marl pit for a brickworks!

Thanks to Taffy for an interesting and unusual enquiry. 2If you can help, please do – either comment here or mail me – BrownhillsBob at Googlemail dot com.  Thanks.

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19 Responses to Something fishy afoot?

  1. Warren Parry says:

    The pond is owned by little Wyrley Estate, and has had these signs up on previous occasions i once got into a lengthy discussion with the council about getting the place tidied up a bit after a Gypsy incursion. The council said they could not help me with the maintenance of the pool as it was the responsibility of Little Wyrley Estate.
    There have been a few privateers who have took it upon themselves to manage the pool previously. I am not sure they ever had permission from Wyrley Estate, but that would have to be verified. We continued fishing it and asked the people involved to prove their position as pool managers, it was never proved.

  2. Ms "Stevie"-Marie Ansell says:

    Hi Bob,

    As long as I have ever known the pond has belonged to Wyrley Estate and a licence is required to fish there… Im shocked that anybody has been able to fish without a licence and got away with it as there as there is a guy called Carl Griffiths who looks after the pool intensely as his own but does a very good job to be honest….
    He has just informed me that an Environment Agency Rod Licence is needed and pool must be left as they find it no litter etc 😀
    Hope this helps 😀

    • A licence is different to a permit from the owners, you have to have a licence to fish anywhere and I would imagine Taffy has one. I think hes more asking about a permit to fish which is usually supplied by the owner of the water. Seems like its an open water from what your friend has said so Taffy can carry on fishing his favourite pool.
      Tight lines.

    • wozelbeak says:

      Stevie, that pool has been fished long before you ever knew it was there. I am 50 and have fished on and off up there for 40 years.

  3. ivor230240 says:

    I fished there regularly from about 1945 until the mid fifties and then paid the occasional visit in the early 1960s. I have a lot of happy memories of my time there, the Marklews’ still farmed in the earlier days. There was never any mention of a permit in those days. There were some good sized Pike in there and I once saw one take an adult duck. I don’t fish any more but I have often thought of one more visit.

  4. wozelbeak says:

    i worked in a property near the police station some years back where a gentleman gave me an account of a suicide that took place in the pond. His dad was a P.C who led the search for the man who drowned himself in Marklews pond. I wonder if there is any record of that?

  5. taffy says:

    a huge thankyou to everyone who has posted a reply to my question about fishing at marklews pool..i have met carl griffiths on several occassions whilst fishing and he did mention that he was the bailiff for the waters ..he never asked to see my licence [ i do have one ] he never asked for any money nor did he prove that he was an actual bailiff..but he has done a great job of keeping it very clean and tidy…many many thanks for your replies everyone..they have been a huge help
    many thanks taffy

  6. dennis poole says:

    i remember i used to fish marklews pond from 1960 to presant remember back in the early years a lady named old lady wallace used to walk round the pool with 2 jack russell dogs she said it was free fishing no charge at all common land it was
    thank you all if you have never fished it go give it a try realy big tench in there double figures some of then
    regards dennis

    • Steven. Jolly says:

      Hello is that the Dennis Poole that. Lived in the avenues or still does friends with Albert Padgett sue Kelly a lad called basford I think Steve Jolly here I remember us all at central school well the occasion we were there am living in south west France now hope to get to brownhills some day to look at what has changed well must get on with life regards Steve jolly

    • ian says:

      I find it hard to believe there being double figure tench in there , may be the one that got away ???
      Personally iv been lucky enough to catch 2 of them , an there a huge fish indeed .
      Did you see these fish weighed correctly ? an im sure if one was caught would be fish of lifetime an phoographs would be taken ?
      perhaps taffy could comment on this as fishes there regular .
      I would think in reality the tench are 2 to 4 pounds .
      My double figure tench were caught from another venue 25 miles away .

  7. Steve cawley says:

    Steve jolly did you work at Dewhursts in Brownhills ,I was the Saturday boy for e few years in the early 70’s

    • Steven. Jolly says:

      Yes the boss was Allan worth Ray hall worked there as well in between poxens slaughterhouse I then moved on to hednesford dewhurst for a few years before moving north to Newcastle stayed in butchery got own shop but now retired and live in south west France Carcassonne good to here from you anyone else from that era still around thanks for getting in touch regards Steve Jolly

  8. Andy T says:

    I have spoken to WMBC and they have said that there are no restrictions to fish Marklews pool. The pool is owned by Wyrley estates but the pool is situated on the Brownhills common land. Even though the land is owned by Wyrley estates and also maintained by such it is still Brownhills common.

    This land was handed to the parish of Brownhills many years ago for the “Free enjoyment” of the people. This means that we as residents are allowed to freely roam the land and no permit it required.

    As for marklews pool this is also free fishing.

    Members of the wallace family have walked the common for years and have never had any issues with people fishing the pool so thats good enough for me. so feel free to fish, have a beer as we all like to do when on the bank but always take the litter home.

  9. ian says:

    Having studied fish biomass of pools I would say marklews pool is less than an acre .
    The facts indicate in a natural state per acre of water it will only support 300 pound of fish per acre rising to maybe 500 pound of fish in a commercial situation .
    So lets hope the people responsible for illegally moving carp from water to water do not descend on this pool , an upset the natural balance of the pool , an its native tench an roach stocks . It is well documented a water is only capable of supporting so many fish . Also the more fish put in they get stunted an grow smaller , less fish produces higher average size .
    Most importantly a healthy water contains weed , a water with no weed contains less food , so like it or not clear water an weed is good for a fishery .
    The facts about carp.
    1. Carp will outcompete other species for food , an eat the weed .
    2. Carp will colour the water with there aggressive feeding , , hence once water is coloured the weed will die , as it needs light to grow .

    Important to remember weed is rich in inverterbrates ie shrimps , snails water flees an all manner of things fish thrive on .
    Overstocked pool will lead to poor water quality , reduced growth rates , disease outbreaks and imbalance in food chain .
    Hopefully there may be only 1 0r 2 max carp in there ideally non its far too small . An tench an roach stocks will be protected which are both natural species to this country .
    Had walk round weekend the water looks bit tinged suggesting to me maybe too many fish in that may be stunted , not fished this pool but if too many carp in that’s the problem its just not big enough for carp . For the doubters any one can discuss this with EA fishery officers who will confirm what I have said above .

    • Jack says:

      Hi Ian,

      I know this pool held a group of carp up to around 2010 but many haven’t been seen for years.

      A lot of bream have been put into this water, as back when I fished it between 2003/10 we never caught Bream. Only Roach, Perch, Pike and Tench.

  10. ian says:

    quite impressed that someone has taken on board to keep the pool clean an tidy .
    This is something I have done on every pool I visit if there is litter .
    An if every angler had the same view even if taking a small amount away in a carrier bag , cans quashed flat are very light to carry , an the little an often approach would keep the litter problem at bay in most areas .

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